Category Archives: Related to Practice

The Only Rule is Work

Video by Helga Jakobson, 2016

All MFA participants and core tutors Erik Hagoort, Thomas Bakker plus invited guest tutor Iede Reckman spent a good time in Glasgow last april, 2016. We did studio visits with our colleagues of the Glasgow School of Art MFA, visited Market Gallery for a meetup, Sculpture Studio’s Glasgow and much more.

An important part of the trip was the presentation and event at House for an Art Lover in Glasgow. HFAAL generously hosted us in- and outside of the exhibition space, allowing experiment and working in-and with the moment as it presented itself to us. After the event, the manifestation of Glasgow International opened. Every venue in town was packed with exhibitions, talks and events.

Our trip was aimed at exploring a new place by also giving, contributing to it in making. In the video above you can get a glimpse of how that idea turned into The Only Rule is Work. Thanks to all involved for making it a special experience; participants, tutors, Iede Reckman, Gemma Mannion (House for an Art Lover), Conor Cooke (Market Gallery), John Calcutt (Glasgow School of Art) and their MFA participants, and all others involved.

Workshop Politics of Installation, 7.09 – 10.09.2015 Process and Findings

What happened during the workshop week Politics of Installation? Jack Segbars wrote a small recap on this week’s work process, findings (and some images, too).

Adriano La Licata, Ielse Slager, Vinh Tanh

Adriano La Licata, Ielse Slager, Vinh Tanh

Proceedings

The participants were first asked to present there work in a general sense and to give an overview of their recent projects. In their presentation they also had to focus on the topic at hand: how do you relate your work and artistic practice vis a vis its mode of dissemination, (institutional/spatial) exhibition formats, presentation and publication and? How is the work informed, structured, projected and presented concerning these qualities?

Maurice Nuiten, Piffin Duvekot

Maurice Nuiten, Piffin Duvekot

Duo

After these presentations the students teamed up in duo’s by choice, depending on overlap, communality or productive relation (methodically or conceptually) to one another. The assignment was to jointly, working with elements in each others work, come up with a presentation that would address the topic of the workshop. What is needed to bridge different modes of artistic methods of the individual participants into one presentation? In this way issues of authorship/coöperation immediately emerge, and are made operational vis a vis the topic in general.

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Results

The results were, as could be expected, very diverse. A lot of effort was made to thoroughly investigate ones stance towards the topic, and the way one wants to work mediating this stance in a coöperative set-up of. This element further enhanced the need to be precise.

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How can one maintain one’s own idea’s in a coöperative endeavour? How is it maintained, how adaptable can one be? Issues of control, authorship arose. Mutual overlap in affinities or approach led to the search for one’s specific take or expertise that could be brought into the joint presentation.

Most teams came up with solutions that radicalized and accentuated their respective individual artistic ideas. Some focussed on the institutional aspects and worked with those, while others used the this aspect to redirect the audience’s attention to a more subjective and personal narrative.

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Some teams moved in-between these two poles, intricately weaving the qualities of the general and the subjective. The coöperation mostly proved fruitful and productive, showing that students are comfortable with the idea of working in a group, countering the accepted notion of the artist as ego-driven agent by necessity.

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Thank you Jack Segbars, all students, tutors, and Atelierbeheer Den Bosch for providing us with generous workspace!

MFA Workshop Politics of Installation, with Jack Segbars

At the start of the year, the first and second year MFA students collaborated in a weeklong workshop Politics of Installation (in artistic practice and program) with Jack Segbars. What are the topics and questions at stake in the workshop?

Where in the model of contemporary arts: a hybrid and joint undertaking between artists, institutions, curators, theory and critique is the actual ‘object’ of art located and generated?

The artistic practice is an interconnected mode of production, not solely defined by the artist. The legacies of Conceptual Art, Minimal Art and Institutional Critique demonstrate that the conditions and parameters of art production are essential elements in establishing the content and mode of operation of the artwork.

The Curatorial, Educational, Historiographical and Discursive Turns, that have ex- panded the scope of context and layerings of conditions, that have become part of artistic strategies and content, can be seen as further examples of this development. Es- pecially now in what is called the Post-Conceptual condition, in which the dominance of the conceptual as quality, frame of evaluation and as institutional framework, governs artistic production (Peter Osborne), it is crucial to re-evaluate artistic methodology in order to (re-) gain critical agency.

The aim of the workshop is to explore the individual take to this topic. How is ones work situated and operational concerning the expanded notion and set-up of production? The central issue, through which we will explore this, is through the notion of the ‘Installation’. As Boris Groys has stipulated in his essay: Politics of Installation: no- wadays the manner in which art is mediated and presented, its context of production, is an integral part of content, that artist need to negotiate. According to Groys this also provides for possibilities of agency.

The installation is a key concept to define the context of art production including cu- ratorial, institutional, issues of authorship and discursive/theoretical aspects of pro- duction. The term ‘installation’ can serve as instrument to see the production of art as a constellation involving all these components.

We will research this topic through group discussion and group work on location, and will work towards an end presentation at the end of the week.

Jack Segbars is an artist, writer, curator amongst others living and working in Rotterdam, NL.

http://www.segbars.nl

Trip Ghent, 2015

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Charlotte van Buylaere, These Things Take Time

At the start of the new academic year, all master students left for a short trip to Ghent. In Ghent, the MFA visited These Things Take Time, an interdisciplinary project space located in the centre of Ghent, and Studio Manor Grunewald as well as collective visits to S.M.A.K. (Lili Dujouri, Jef Geys, Sol Lewitt), Museum Dhont Dhaenens (Proximus Collectie), and Museum Dr. Guislain.

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These Things Take Time

Studio Manor Grunewald

Open Studio 2015: introduction of participants

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The 1st years made a small booklet for the upcoming open studio’s to introduce their practice.

You can view the whole booklet here:

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Please be welcome for the opening this week, july 2nd 16.00 h, Onderwijsboulevard 256, Den Bosch

The Collection, MFA graduation show at Greylight Projects, Brussels

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You are cordially invited  for The Collection, MFA AKV|St.Joost graduation show taking place at Greylight Projects, Brussels!

Danni van Amstel (NL), Katrein Breukers (NL), Giulia Cenci (I), Katherina Heil (D), Tyas Leeuwerink (NL), Maud Oonk (NL), Mohadeseh Rahimitabar (IR) and Maarten Spons (NL).

Opening: july 4 2015, 5 PM!

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Politics of Installation II, P/////AKT Amsterdam – opening sat june 13, 20.00 h

MFA tutor Bas van den Hurk exhibits at P/////AKT, Amsterdam with Hans Demeulenaere (B) and guest artists Koenraad Dedobbeleer (B) and Lorelinde Verhees.

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“By taking aesthetic responsibility in a very explicit way for the design of the installation space, the artist reveals the hidden sovereign dimension of the contemporary democratic order that politics, for the most part, tries to conceal.” – Boris Groys

Politics of Installation is a two-part dialogue between Bas van den Hurk and Hans Demeulenaere, in which they examine their own and each other’s practice, in order to form a new series of works and presentation models together. After the first part in Loods 12 in Wetteren (B), the final part is now presented in P/////AKT. A combination of new works and parts of the previous show, will be displayed in a new arrangement.

Bas van den Hurk’s work is on the verge between painting, fashion, sculpture, installation, architecture and performance, by which he addresses the process of making in its various forms. Hans Demeulenaere plays with the perception of space. His work consists of objects, constructions and frames which integrate both sculptural and daily elements. In Politics of Installation, a title that is derived from a text by Boris Groys in 2009, the artists ask themselves to what extent the making of an installation can attach certain (political) meanings to a space. How do we relate to a shared space? How do we negotiate its use and meaning?

The binding factor in the work of Van den Hurk and Demeulenaere is the changing relation between autonomy and heteronomy. For this reason, they offer multiple points of view in this exhibition. They invited guest artists Koenraad Dedobbeleer and Lorelinde Verhees to make a contribution, as well as several text writers and especially the audience. In this way, the physical space of P/////AKT becomes a ‘place for negotiation’, where the artists engage in a dialogue on the work and the arrangement of the space. Art work and exhibition element will merge somewhere between showing and looking.

Also, an art historical line will be drawn by means of architectural interventions. Bas van den Hurk (re-)constructs a concrete circular element, based on the work of Belgian architect Juliaan Lampens, who introduced the ‘open plan living’ in the 1960’s. He will also present clothing works in collaboration with Sanne Jansen, paintings and bottles with remains from the painting process. Hans Demeulenaere shows a combination of existing and new work, amongst which a reconstruction of a part of the Sonsbeek-pavilion from 1965-’66, built by Aldo van Eyck. Recently, this pavilion was rebuilt in the sculpture garden of Kröller-Müller Museum.

Politics of Installation, part 2 is the third exhibition in the series Not Making Sense As Something Else, which is reflected upon by Freek Lomme (moderator) and Marnie Slater (writer).

http://www.pakt.nu

Save the date: MFA Graduation Exhibition, opening July 4th

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Coming up: the MFA Graduation Exhibition! We will present our final works at Greylight Projects in Brussels, opening july 4th, 16.00 h. With works of Maarten Spons (NL), Giulia Cenci (IT), Katherina Heil (D), Mohadeseh Rahimitabar (IR), Katrein Breukers (NL), Maud Oonk (NL) and Tyas Leeuwerink (NL). Guest curator is Petra Heck. You are cordially invited.

More info tba!

Book launch: MFA AKV | St.Joost presents Functions of Myth

During Super Book Saturday april 18th at Onomatopee in Eindhoven we presented the publication Functions of Myth, made with last years MFA graduates Paulina Mellado, Dimitris Rentoumis, Alexandros Kaklamanos, Yukari Matsumoto and Laleh Firoozi.

The publication was made to partner a group show with the same name, held last year at Club Solo in Breda. Texts are by Thomas I’Anson and the graduates, Graphic design by Stefano Faoro.

Through short presentations, a performative lecture, a poem and the screenings of works, participants explored the works within the pages and beyond.

The publication is available in the bookshop of Onomatopee in Eindhoven, Club Solo in Breda and the academy’s bookstores at both locations of AKV| St.Joost in Breda and Den Bosch.

High Life Low Profile

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High Life Low Profile

A 50 min presence and presentation of participants of MFA AKV|St.Joost

Location:

Whitney Museum construction site (Highline, corner Gansevoort St/Washington St.) NYC

Sunday March 22, 4 PM

Participants: Dorina Kappatou, Piffin Duvekot, Adriano La Licata, Marta Maseiro, Maud Oonk, Maarten Spons, Tyas Leeuwerink, Katherina Heil, Mohadeseh Rahimitabar, Nguyen Quang Vinh, Katrein Breukers, Danni van Amstel, Lorelinde Verhees, Thomas Bakker, George Korsmit, Erik Hagoort

(The High Line runs from Gansevoort Street – Meatpacking district / West 34th between 10th and 12th avenues

Map available at both ends of the line). 

You are cordially invited. 

Inhale / Exhale: MFA study trip to New York

We are looking forward to this year’s study trip, coming up in less than a week.

A busy program is to be expected: studio visits, lectures and meetings. We started a blog to share our activities and encounters in NYC! Please take a look at

https://mfanewyorktripinhaleexhale.wordpress.com

Je kunt het spel niet met iedereen spelen – interviews in The Cucumber Temple

Peter Nijenhuis interviewed the students that take part in The Cucumber Temple, currently on view at Expoplu, Nijmegen.

Firstly: an introduction and Danni van Amstel about her contribution in the exhibition.

The Cucumber Temple is een tentoonstelling in de Nijmeegse Paraplufabriek van zes studenten van de masteropleiding Fine Art van AKV/St.Joost, geïnspireerd op een gelijknamige tekst van Martijn in ‘t Veld. In de associatieve en ogenschijnlijk van de hak op de tak springende tekst van Martijn in ‘t Veld spelen de kleur groen, meerduidigheid en gedaantewisselingen een hoofdrol. Hoe hebben de zes studenten onder begeleiding van docent en curator Bas van den Hurk in hun bijdrage aan de tentoonstelling de tekst van Martijn in ‘t Veld verbonden met hun eigen onderzoeksvragen?

DANNI VAN AMSTEL: JE KUNT HET SPEL NIET MET IEDEREEN SPELEN

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Een masterstudent Fine Art aan Sint Joost dient na ongeveer een half jaar een onderzoeksvraag te schrijven die dienst doet als rode draad tijdens de rest van de tweejarige opleiding. Wat is jouw onderzoeksvraag, of beter gezegd het onderwerp dat je met beeldende middelen onderzoekt? 

Ik heb daar een tijd naar gezocht. Voorheen maakte ik werk naar aanleiding van een bestaande plek. Het was, zoals dat heet site specific. Na dat een tijd gedaan te hebben, voelde ik de behoefte om meer op zich staand, zeg maar sculpturaal werk te maken. Wat me bovendien interesseert is hoe ik de beschouwer bij mijn werk kan betrekken en, bij uitbreiding, hoe mensen überhaupt bij ruimte betrokken raken. Dat bracht me erop om mensen te interviewen die aan het verhuizen zijn. Ik vond die mensen via mijn kennissenkring en sociale media. Ik ging met ze mee als ze hun toekomstige woning voor het eerst bekeken. Wat waren hun ideeën en plannen als ze het zo zagen? Ik ben nu bezig om daar een publicatie van te maken. Wat uit de interviews naar voren komt, is dat veel mensen op de nog lege ruimte die ze zullen gaan bewonen hun gewoontes en verlangens projecteren. Die gewoontes en verlangens hebben veelal hun oorsprong in hun eerste ervaringen, het dagelijkse bewonen van een vroeger huis met het gezin waarin ze opgroeiden. Dat is voor mij een belangrijk gegeven. Het ondersteunt wat over het onderwerp van de menselijke ruimtebeleving en de poëzie van die beleving is geschreven door theoretici als Gaston Bachelard en maakt die theoretische benadering ook begrijpelijk en concreet.


Wat heb je voor deze tentoonstelling gemaakt?

Ik heb heel simpel gekozen voor de kleur groen als uitgangspunt en in Nijmegen op straat naar scherven groen glas gezocht. Het glas heb ik gesmolten in een glasoven. Daardoor zijn de scherpe randen van de scherven vloeiend geworden en de onderzijde van de scherven plat. Het smeltproces is evenwel  binnen de perken gebleven waardoor aan de bovenzijde de oorspronkelijke vorm nog steeds herkenbaar is. Je kunt nog altijd zien dat een stuk glas bijvoorbeeld afkomstig is van de schroefdraad van een fles.

Het werk en het hele idee spreken me aan, maar het is klein en ligt, als iets onbeduidends bij een putje. Ik stond er zojuist al per ongeluk in toen ik met iemand anders stond te praten. Dat mensen je werk niet zien of vatten, is niet denkbeeldig. Hoe doorbreek je dat?

In hoeverre is er iets te doorbreken? Ik zei al dat ik het me interesseert hoe je de toeschouwer aan kunt spreken en kunt betrekken bij je werk. Ik doe dat onder andere door me te verdiepen in hoe mensen in dagelijkse situatie bij ruimtes betrokken zijn. Dat spel wil ik met mijn werk nadrukkelijk aangaan, maar ik denk dat je dat spel niet met iedereen kunt spelen, hoe jammer dat ook is.

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All text and images copyright Peter Nijenhuis. Read the full text here

Guest lecture and studio visits Alex Bacon (US)

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This week writer, critic and curator Alex Bacon (NYC) was a two-day guest lecturer at the MFA.
He studied art history at Princeton University where Hal Foster was his professor.
His main interest is ‘abstraction’ in the broadest sense of the word. That means as well the (art)historical references as the contemporary art in which this plays part.
Unique about his position is that he is in close contact with a lot of artists, especially with a young generation of abstract painters in New York. He’s not a writer or critic that stands on the sideline but really involves himself.

A Presentation For Bucharest

opening :17 April at 19:00 at Make a Point

The participants of the Master Fine Arts of AKV St. Joost, based in Den Bosch and Breda, the Netherlands visited Bucharest for a short term residency, hosted by Tudor Bratu from Bucharest AIR. We connected with institutions, curators, local artists and international artist-researchers through talks, meetings and workshops.

IMG_8670In a fragmentary way, we discovered Bucharest, through conversations and meetings, by walking and by getting lost. In our Presentation for Bucharest, each of us gives an impression. This can take different forms, from a collaboration to an individual sketch, from a suggestion to an idea, from a work to a question mark.  IMG_9915-1

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Advisors
Erik Hagoort (NL)
Bas van den Hurk (NL)

Guest Advisor
Tudor Bratu (RO/NL)

Guest Artists
Adina Mocanu (RO)
Ioana Gheorghiu (RO)
Giles Eldridge (GB)
Lorelinde Verhees (NL)

Participants:

Danni van Amstel (NL)
Katrein Breukers (NL)
Giulia Cenci (IT)
Katherina Heil (GER)
Alexandros Kaklamanos (GR)
Tyas Leeuwerink (NL)
Paulina Mellado (CL)
Maud Oonk (NL)
Dimitris Rentoumis (GR)
Maarten Spons (NL)

 

The workshop ‘Art & Reciprocity’ accompanied the residency of participants at the AKV | St. Joost MFA at Bucharest Air. http://www.bucharestair.com/#news

Bucharest Air, established in 2010, functions as a non-profit organization, ran and managed by artists Tudor Bratu, Alice Gancevici, Remus Pușcariu, and Ioana Gheorghiu. Bucharest Air aims at generating and maintaining a high level platform for cultural exchange in Bucharest.

Event in collaboration with Make A Point, Bucharest

For more information, please visit:

www.makeapoint.ro

www.bucharestair.com

Preparing for the presentation at Make a Point

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practicing Paul Ryan’s THREEING

Paul Ryan himself called his practice of THREEING “the best invention since the Bread Slicing Machine”.
( interview with him at the Documenta 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4npVaV7q4U)

The only way to find out, was to try it ourselves. And so we did.
with firstness, secondness, and thirdness.
with impulse, resistance, and mediation.

Katherina, Dimitrios, and Maarten:
took turns in nailing one another to the wall, assembling furniture and commenting with photoprints.
Here is an impression taken by chance of their Threeing:

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They took turns in pulling, balancing, and rolling themselves in a 30 metres linnen band.

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took turns in drawing, first by drawing several times out of impulse and reaction, and then looking for patterns.
Yukari, Erik, and Paulina:
took turns in walking, running, and falling, and ended up in trying to make sense of non-conversation.

Presentations on Theory and Practice

During the 18th and the 19th of December the master students are presenting their progress in theory and practice.

S1230045With this presentation 1st year students close of the Orientation Phase during which they have started to set up a practice within the framework of the studies and have formulated a research proposal.

The 2nd year students close of the Experimentation Phase during which they tested and enhanced their research and developed different approaches to work towards a sustainable practice that integrates both theoretical research as well as an inquisitive practice.

In conversation with Emmanuel Lambion

Emmanuel Lambion, founder of the Bn PROJECTS , was today our guest on the 11th floor at W-O-L-K-E . After presenting his practice as curator and as ‘artworker’, he had individual conversations with the master students about initial ideas and works in progress.S1160015 S1160019 S1160027

Residency at W-O-L-K-E – Brussels, Belgium

From the 18th of November until the 1st of December our master students will be working at W-O-L-K-E , in Brussels.

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Report from China

 We, Derek van der Vinne and Daan Gielis, two current 2nd year masterstudents, are currently working and travelling in China. Our homebase is in Jingdezhen, which in China is considered a “small” town with “only” 1,5 million inhabitants, about 500km inland and an hour flight from Shanghai.

We have been working and travelling for about a month and still have a month and a half to go. With little and no experience in ceramics it has been a period of getting to know porcelain and discovering the possibilities offered by the craftsmen of Jingdezhen.

We have just returned from a week of travelling, going from jingdezhen to Xian, Fuping and then to Beijing. We visited among other places, the ceramics centre in Fuping, the great wall of China, the forbidden city in Beijing, and the 798 arts district,.. After a 23 hour trainride we got back and have now arranged a new studio in the heart of the pottery workshop near our youth hostel and are ready to make more works.

Currently we are working on personal pieces and a multiple that’s going to be produced as an edition of 200.

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China so far has ‘not been a pique-nique’, to borrow a phrase from a Belgian friend. The country and it’s variety of experiences has been wonderful, demanding, tiring, crazy but centainly rewarding. Especially upon returning, Jingdezhen feels like a fresh and friendly city. The streets are filled with little shops where blacksmiths, moldmakers, casters, woodworkers, owners of DIY shops, bicycle repairers,.. fix anything. The streets are broken, with repair constantly happening everywhere. This gives the feeling that there is still a large realm of possibilities for fresh, new things, which is quite an inspiring feeling.

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Kunstvlaai update: Where things don’t move

Where Things Don’t Move

1st of December, room A 36, 6-9 pm!!
again, limited seating!

presentations on performance and collaboration

Mini-Symposium (from 6 to 9 PM) with Maria Paskwho will talk about her project ‘Déjà vu’, followed by a talk on performance and collaboration; while Una Björk Sigurðardóttir‘s will reciprocate a gift in the form of a performance.

Closing performance by Gijs van Lith and Giorgos Kontis

 

Kunstvlaai update: Communality

Impossible Communities?

A Discussion on the Commonality of Art

By Daan Gielis (Sint-Joost Academy Breda) and Bram Ieven (Utrecht University)

29 November 2012 at room A 36 starting from 15:30 – ..

Limited seats, everybody welcome!

Alice laughed. ‘There’s no use trying,’ she said, ‘one can’t believe impossible things.’

‘I daresay you haven’t had much practice,’ said the Queen. ‘When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.’

Lewis Caroll, Alice in Wonderland

During this informal get together we will discuss the relation between art and community. How does art relate to community? Does art build communities or does it somehow contribute to building a community? If so, in what way? What does it imply for art to be engaged in a community? And how do we resist the tendency to think of this community as simply a congregation of art consumers? What is the difference between an art public made up of consumers and a community of viewers, spectators and participants who engage with art?

Kunstvlaai update: Untranslatability

Today there will be a symposium held in our room A-36 at Kunstvlaai.

The symposium will deal with ‘Untranslatability, Text, Object, Image and a way of working’

There will be talks held by Uta Eisenreich, Erik Boker and Yiannis Papadopoulos.

Start at 6, limited seating, everybody welcome!

Update on the kunstvlaai

A few pictures from the first setups we made during the first days.

There is symposia coming up this wednesday, thursday and saturday!!


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INexactly THIS – Kunstvlaai: Festival of Independents,   MFA AKV/ST. JOOST at Kunstvlaai 2012
November 23–December 2, 2012
Opening: November 23, 3–11pm
(former) Sint Nicolaas Lyceum
Prinses Irenestraat 21
Amsterdam
Hours: Wednesday–Thursday 3–9pm; Friday–Sunday 12–9pm. Check http://www.kunstvlaai.nl for updated news.
MFA AKV/ST. JOOST at Kunstvlaai 2012
Erik Boker / Daan Gielis / Eleni-Myrsini Gogou / Soo Hie Kim / Giorgos Kontis / Gijs van Lith / Tramaine de Senna / Una Björk Sigudardittir / Derek van der Vinne

‘Shapes, Shifts & Sheeps’
Amongst three “legs” of loosely divided categorical presentation, students at MFA AKV St Joost present an ever-shifting exhibition of works, mini-symposia, performances, and film. A raised stage will serve as a representation of a gallery space itself, merging wall, pedestal, table, and floor into one.
The stage serves as a platform of presentation, a place for collaboration, and discourse – a comfortable environment for socializing…a home, your home – and a revolving door open to outside contributors and collaborations. Within overlapping three-day increments or “legs,” which constitute larger conceptual frames – the white cube, theory, and performance – there is a daily changing display of works and proposals by the nine participants. Each transition of a “leg” is not necessarily divisive, but in dialogue with the one previous and the next to come, where the framework is not rigid, but flexing, breathing, in motion.